Thats a good plan, thank you for the idea, it's probably the best way to go, I've been gradually picking things up by logic and observation. It's really wierd as, although i've always loved reading, the technicalities of english didn't interest me, it's only been over time that i've worked out how some bits worked...tho the concept of nouns etc is omething alien - which could in fact be accurate, like, alien nuns...sorry..side tracked...!!