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Help.

I’m going over my second book because it needs some fixing, and it’s definitely been awhile since I’ve read it through. But I’m in that state where I can’t really see anything for what it is.

Have you been there? One minute you look at something you’ve written and think ‘hey, that’s pretty good’ and the next minute you’re thinking ‘oh god that’s fucking awful!’ Or you get an obsession with, say, commas, and suddenly every fucking comma looks out of place. You’re reading unnaturally, halted by all the commas and the sentences don’t read like sentences any longer, they’re just a string of words separated by awkward commas!

I really need to do this, but I’m second guessing everything. Everything. The logical answer would be to put it aside, but I don’t wanna. Yes, I’ve turned into a stubborn four year-old who can’t read properly.

Stubborn four-year-old antics aside, have you had this happen and is there something you do to break from it? Because I really want to work on this today.

Date: 2011-10-25 12:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] niniane
I think it's rather improbable that anyone will steal (beyond in the peripheral way in which we all steal).

For once, most other writers are convinced that their stuff is the best ever, so see no reason to steal your "inferior" idea.

For another, the sites are password protected. And most include a long list of legal disclaimers as to what happens if someone does steal an idea.

So I won't say that it can't happen - or that it never happens. But I suspect that it happening is pretty rare. (At least on reputable sites.) There's not a huge amount of financial gain, and there's a lot of potential risk.

Plus, it's a risk you take anywhere, with any story. An agent could steal it. A publisher could. So either you keep them all hidden on your computer or figure, "I take my odds" and go for it. (And sue anyone who does steal. The penalties are crazy harsh - far more than most of us will ever make for selling a story!)

Date: 2011-10-25 04:36 pm (UTC)
niniane: belle face (Default)
From: [personal profile] niniane
Eh, you only discover that you're mostly safe by interacting with writing comms. Which, of course, you can do without sharing work. (Although it's often hard to get a beta without doing so, as betas often don't want to agree to read more than a very little bit unless they're fairly convinced that they won't be agreeing to a novel worth of misery.)

You can definitely sue if someone shares your copy righted work without permission. From the Critters Website:

Absolutely not! No way! Big trouble awaits!

All works submitted to Critters are copyrighted, and you have no authority to share the work with anyone, at all, period. And if you have the urge, keep in mind that the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) carries really stiff fines (minimum $2500 -per violation- up to millions of dollars) and up to ten years in jail. Yeah. Heavy stuff.

Don't mess with the copyright law.
(Note that maximums are unlimited as far as fines go.)

This, of course, relates only to the US. But similar laws exist in most other countries. So if you shared something with someone and they spread it all over (or pretended it was theirs), you could technically sue them under this law for any damages. Of course, you'd have to figure out where they were (which could be tough) and prove that it was yours (pretty easy, as I'd assume that there'd be an enormous digital trail).

And this really wouldn't apply to fanfiction, seeing as your legal rights to it are nebulous there at best.

But if someone stole your original fiction, you could definitely sue and get them into a huge amount of legal trouble. (And this is beyond finding where they shared it and getting them into trouble there, too. I suspect that magazines, etc. don't look too fondly on plagiarism.)

Regardless, the penalties (both legal and also, do you really want to be known as the person who stole someone else's work and pretended it was yours?) are significant enough that most people tend to be pretty good. No guarantees - of course - there are none in life. But most people's fears are rather over blown. It's not that hard to prove that your work is your own. It's not that hard to make a plagiarist's life miserable. And most people really aren't out there to steal other people's stuff, anyway, as they're having a hard enough time promoting what they write themselves.

Date: 2011-10-25 07:27 pm (UTC)
niniane: belle face (Default)
From: [personal profile] niniane
Oh, not a problem. You can't learn if you don't ask questions. (And I believe that damages can be as high as $30,000 even if you can't prove any actual damages, which is a pretty tidy sum if someone runs off with a story - not bad, really.)

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